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BRASFIELD John L
Male 1842 - 1890

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  • Birth  02 Jan 1842  Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5
    Gender  Male 
    Residence  1850  Greene, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Residence  1860  Eastern Division, Walker, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Residence  1870  Township 16, Walker, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Residence  1876  Jefferson, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Death  05 Aug 1889 
    Name  John Brassfield  [2
    Name  John L Brassfield  [4
    Name  John L Brassfield  [3
    Died  05 Aug 1890  Walker, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried  Pumpkin Center, Walker, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I43919  Brasfield-Brassfield Genealogies
    Last Modified  17 Feb 2015 
     
    Father  BRASFIELD Alfred,   b. 12 May 1805, Wake, North Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1860 
    Mother  UNKNOWN Amy,   b. Abt 1815, North Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F7052  Group Sheet
     
    Family 1  UNKNOWN Caroline,   b. Abt 1842, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. BRASFIELD Charles,   b. Abt Dec 1869
    Family ID  F14070  Group Sheet
     
    Family 2  VINES Rhoda H.,   b. 07 Jul 1849, Hewett, Walker County, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Jan 1937 
    Married  13 Mar 1865  Jefferson, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    >1. BRASFIELD Henry Wadsworth,   b. 09 Feb 1870, Walker, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 09 Mar 1952, Walker, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location
    >2. BRASFIELD Ida,   b. Abt 1871, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1945
    >3. BRASFIELD Anna Lou,   b. 24 Dec 1875,   d. 13 Dec 1952
    >4. BRASFIELD Lena F.,   b. 25 Feb 1878,   d. 02 Jun 1952
    >5. BRASFIELD William Leonard,   b. 29 Oct 1880, Jefferson, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Mar 1965, Jefferson, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location
    >6. BRASFIELD Lucy Elizabeth,   b. 14 Mar 1882,   d. 12 Jan 1930
    >7. BRASFIELD Arminda,   b. 28 Sep 1885,   d. 26 Mar 1912
    Family ID  F14069  Group Sheet
     
  • Notes 
    • * John L. BRASFIELD married Rhoda VINES March 15, 1865 in Jefferson County, Alabama. John L. was the father of William Leonard Brasfield, who married Minnie Lee Payne. John was my maternal g-grandfather.

      * William Leonard BRASFIELD married Minnie Lee PAYNE on March 14, 1903 in Walker County, Alabama. He was my maternal grandfather.

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      Howdy once again Michael! I am enclosing this email to update the children of John L. Brasfield and Rhoda Vines. On your site you have 2 sets of the same child and 1 extra that does not belong. First of all, the children named Aner, Lulen and Amanda are really Anna, Lucy and Minnie whom you do list. The Aner, Lulen and Amanda names which are mentioned in the MacAlister book are the names that Rhoda provided to the federal government when she tried to file for her widow's civil war pension after John L. died. Rhoda was illiterate and the names were written down as she pronounced them. According to my kin, Rhoda was a less than ideal mother and that my ggrandfather Henry and his sister Ida raised their younger siblings while Rhoda was off doing who knows what. I have a copy of the pension application and my ggrandfather Henry signs as a witness while Rhoda signed with an X. You also list on the site a child named Ambrose Brasfield. There was no such child. You may have him mixed up with Anna's husband Ambrose Quinn whom you do list correctly. Here is a correct list of all the children and their birthdates and spouses. There is still an ongoing debate as to Henry's birthdate. My dad says he was born in 1869, Henry's tombstone says 1871 and the 1910 census, which I chose to accept as a compromise says 1870. Aunt Ida is also debated as to 1870 or 1871 so since I am male I am saying 1871!

      Henry Wadsworth Brasfield b. 1/1870 m. 1. Belle McCarty 2. Augusta Jetton
      Ida Brasfield b. 1871 m. Marion Ballinger
      Anna Brasfield b. 12/24/1876 m. Ambrose Quinn
      Lena Brasfield b. 2/25/1878 m.Evan Quinn
      William Leonard "Lee" Brasfield b. 10/29/1880 m. Minnie Lee Payne
      Lucy Brasfield b. 3/14/1882 m. Hessie Quinn
      Minnie Brasfield b. 10/26/1886 m. William Alexander

      Ambrose and Evan Quinn were brothers and Hessie Quinn was their first cousin. I know of at least 7 occasions where Brasfields and Quinns got together and had children, including my grandparents. The birthdates for the children are taken from tombstones but as we have seen they may not be accurate as well. Thank you once again for the time that you put into this and whenever I get free time I will pass along more information. Have a nice day.
      Paul Kenneth Brasfield
      Palestine, Texas USA
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      Howdy Michael,
      There has been much debate and speculation in my family over which side John L. Brasfield served with during the Civil War. The McAllister book on page 607 lists him with the 1st Alabama Calvary and the 12th Tennessee. Both units were Union outfits. His wife Rhoda made a pension claim # 504437 attesting to his service. I have a copy of that pension claim from the national archives and his name was never found as being a member of any of those units nor do I believe that Rhoda ever got her pension. Given the shady and not too pleaseant reputation of my 2d greatgrandmother it is possible that she made up the story of John serving for the Union just to try to get any pension she could get her hands on. My greatgrandfather Henry W. Brasfield, Peter Copeland and Thomas and Mary Trice all signed as witnesses on her behalf. She claims that John served from 1864 till the end of the war and that he hid out in the woods while on furlough as to not be caught by the rebels. What is strange is that they were married in March 1865 while the war was still going on. I recently found a website to which shows strong evidence that John L served with the Confederates. http://www.geocities.com/coh41/13thBtlnAlParRgrs.html details the history and muster rolls of the 13th Battallion Partisan Rangers. They were a Confederate calvary unit formed in Jasper, Alabama in September 1862. Company B lists a John Brasfield, with one s, along with a few Alexanders, a CC Ballinger, WT Hancock and Daniel Trice. The names listed above are surnames that appear often in my family tree. Company C lists two McCartys as well as two Jettuns who may be Jettons. My greatgrandfather Henry married both a McCarty and a Jetton. I am convinced that John L. Brasfield did in fact serve for the Confederacy at one time. It is possible that he did switch sides later as the war turned in favor of the Union even though I can't verify his service other than what Rhoda claims. I thought that this little bit of history may be of interest to the website under your stories or Military section. The above weblink may also be a helpful tool on your site for other Brasfields interested in Civil War history. Thank you once again for your dedication to our website as always.
      Paul Kenneth Brasfield
      Palestine, Texas USA

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      Notes for John L Brasfield:
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      The 13th Battalion Alabama Partisan Rangers
      Roster Of Company B
      Brasfield, John - Private Enlisted September 6,1862 at Jasper,Alabama. _________________________________________________________
      (Per Deanne Quinn Phillips,
      John L was a private in the Union Army, in Company D, 1st Al
      and later Company M, 12th Tennesse Regiment as cook (Civil War).
      Deanne also sent me copies where Henry Brasfield &
      Peter Copeland attested a statement for pension claim for Rhoda.)
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      1850 U.S. Census, Greene Cty, Al
      Brasfield, Alfred-43-M-Teacher, Aney (Orey) 37- F
      John L-10-M, William H-7- M, James D-5- M
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      1860 U.S. Census, Walker Cty, Al. Eastern Div, P.O. Democrat,
      Pg 911, Family #336,
      Brassfield, Alfred-53 M School teacher, Amy -45 F Domestic
      John L-18 M Farm labor, William H-15 M Farm labor
      (Lives next door to James T Davis)
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      Sentiment on John L Brasfield's tombstone at Snow Grave yard:
      A light from our household is gone,
      A voice we loved is still,
      A place is vacant in our hearts that can never be filled
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      More About John L Brasfield:
      Burial: Snow Cem, Hwy 269 Pumpkin Center,Walker Cty, Al
     
  • Sources 
    1. [S149] 1920 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;), Database online. Alabama, Walker, Alabama, ED , roll , page , image 1000..
      Record for Henry Brasfield

    2. [S152] 1870 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2003;), Database online. Township 16, Walker, Alabama, post office Jasper, roll 44, page 88, image 172..
      Record for John Brassfield

    3. [S147] 1850 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;), Database online. , Greene, Alabama, roll M432_6, page 334, image 184..
      Record for John L Brassfield

    4. [S153] 1860 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004;), Database online. Eastern Division, Walker, Alabama, post office Democrat, roll M653_26, page 911, image 147..
      Record for John L Brassfield

    5. [S150] 1910 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online. Alabama, Walker, Alabama, ED , roll T624_36, part , page ..
      Record for Henry W Brasfield